Few things bring out someone's true colors quite like money.
In a popular post on the AITA subreddit, a woman asked if she was wrong for not telling her boyfriend she won money fifteen years ago. She wrote:
My boyfriend (35m) and I (35f) were discussing finances as we wanted to be on the same page. My boyfriend moved in with me unexpectedly three months ago as his landlord decided to move into the property with his family. We were discussing finances and the topic of how I own my place came up.
I explained I won some money (not a lot but enough to be able to put myself through nursing school, purchase my home and have some savings) back in 2009 and bought my place outright and then rented it out until I moved back into it in late 2018. Obviously I had some luck on my side as this was right in the middle of the recession so I got my place for real cheap.
He says I deceived him by giving him the impression that I was a financially well off and that I led him to believe I was more business savvy than I was. I don’t know how I did that because I literally work as a nurse make decent money, fully own my home, fully own my car, have decent retirement plans and decent savings. I'm fairly certain that I am financially better off than most people I know.
He says that he can’t trust me anymore and that he was stupid to have listened to my financial advice but the thing is I never gave him any financial advice, except for telling him not to buy a car that was in my opinion unreliable and much too expensive. Did I deceive him by not telling him how I got myself financially stable? FYI we have been dating for almost a year and a half.
RMaua wrote:
NTA. This feels like jealousy on his part so he's lashing out. Out of interest, how long have you two been together? Because this kind of information can take a while to disclose. If you were together when you won the money and hid it from him that might be a different argument. Also, you are financially savvy because you got a windfall and didn't waste it. Well done you!
OP responded:
We’ve been together almost a year and a half. I didn’t even know him when I won my money.
Thank you!
ProfileElectronic wrote:
He thought you were better off and he could mooch off of you in the long run. It always starts with moving in together because of some issues and the woman's house is the only logical place. Next he will lose his job due to "circumstances" and be unable to find another. He must have already begun throwing hints that he's unhappy at his current job and he's being treated unfairly.
Of course he believes you deceived him because what he thought of as a cushy retirement is looking nor so luxurious as he'll have only your nurse's salary to mooch of on.
OP responded:
You literally called it!
CatWombles wrote:
Oh time to get him to move out! He’s a red flag!
GameDev4187 wrote:
NTA. Sounds like he is insecure because you make more and / or have more success than him. He is putting you down to make himself feel better. Nurses make bank. They work hard hours and are compensated accordingly. Simply ask him, knowing how you probably earn 100k per year and another 30-40k in overtime, if he believes you could own your home without your prior luck?
Because unless it's some mansion, buying anything in the recession was cheap and as I stated, you likely make bank. If he feels like you don't "deserve" your home because of some chance/luck(?), and couldn't afford it, offer to move into his comparable home he purchases.
Honestly I don't think he recognizes your success, and I think you need a long chat about it over a bottle of wine or 3. He can either be proud of you and drop it, or he can be single.
And OP responded:
I earn a bit over 200k and with overtime I earn more. I also know I could buy a fairly decent place now if I wanted to and I base that on my colleagues who purchased their homes in the past few years. But you're right I’m definitely going to ask him this. I was just so taken aback by his response to me sharing things with him that I was genuinely perplexed on what I did to cause such a argument.
mxcrnt2 wrote:
You did nothing to cause the argument. Your bf is responsible for his own emotions. He's being manipulative. I do think it’s poor important for people to recognize how much luck plays a role in wealth.
I only bought my house because my parents gave me a big chunk of money to do so as a "living inheritance" and I always tell people this so that there’s no suggestion that it wasn’t easy or that everybody should just be able to do it if they don’t eat avocado, toast, or whatever. But his reaction is definitely not reasonable, even if he feels like you hit the truth to make yourself look more savvy than you are.
And OP responded:
I absolutely recognize that my win put me in an extraordinary position. If I didn’t win it I would’ve had student loans and other debt hanging over my head. I’ve never thought of myself as superior or more worthy than anyone else for being financially stable.
I literally grew up very poor and that money changed my life and the lives of my sisters. So I absolutely recognize the privileges and opportunities it gave me and what it continues to give.
UPDATE: I just had another, very weird conversation with him and I honestly can’t wrap my head around it. Yeah so he is definitely a gold digger. He asked me how much I have in savings and seemed impressed with how much and then said maybe he reacted too aggressively. Then asked/told me that he still wants the car I advised him not to get.
He hinted at me getting it for him as a birthday present since its his birthday in early March. I am definitely dumping him. Going to wait till my two sisters and my brother-in-laws can come over before I break up with him in case he reacts crazy.
Bitter_Employee2115 wrote:
What car did you say was unreliable?
And OP responded:
He wants a Tesla and well they are notoriously unsafe, unreliable, ugly and much too expensive.
In_need_of_chocolate wrote:
Eek this guy is dripping in red flags. Moved in with you “unexpectedly”, ie didn’t give you sufficient time to think about it. Critical of you for not telling him something that is none of his business and because he made incorrect assumptions about you. Saying he can’t trust you? Fine, fork off and move out!
“How much do you have in savings?” after this shitshow should have been met with the answer “none of your business”. How much does he have? BUY HIM A CAR? Girl this gets worse and worse. Change the locks. ASAP. NTA.
And OP responded:
He said he had 18k in savings. In regards to him moving in he was definitely given a thirty day notice and he looked for a place, in fact I helped him with it but the rental market was just a bit brutal, so we agreed he could move in and yes he pays rent. My jaw dropped when he hinted at me getting a Tesla for him.
Talking to him the past couple days has literally hurt my brain. He says one thing then the next will be contradictory to the previous thing he said. He was never like this before, I guess moving in made it difficult to hide his crazy!
wordsmythy wrote:
He was never like this before. Or maybe you were not on high alert to be looking for red flags, because you had no reason not to trust him. But then again, you weren’t looking for a reason not to trust him. But now, he’s giving you plenty of reason not to trust him. As the saying goes, when people show you who they are…believe them.
UPDATE 2: He’s jealous and also resentful. He’s ranting about how he would’ve tripled the money if he had won it.
UPDATE 3: He’s saying that my money is wasted on me because I don’t “make it make money”. Apparently I should’ve been investing my savings in high yielding stocks and other s#$t. FYI I do get financial advice from a financial advisor I trust but I am a risk averse person so I would never invest it in the manner this idiot is telling me! Sure the chance to get a lot of money is there but so is the chance to lose!
antique_add wrote:
15 years ago which is way before you met him. You won some money. You were fiscally responsible with it and use it to further your life so that you were an accomplished place. Now. He says you like to him. Ask him to tell you every every penny he's ever earned from his entire life. He's not supposed to do that and you don't have no reason to do it either.
He's upset. It's because he thinks he could have spend some of it or been entitled to a vacation. It's not his money, you are not entitled to tell him anything. Need to reevaluate your relationship with him. NTA.
Antelope_31 wrote:
NTA but he definitely is. He was never entitled to that info unless/if/when you wanted to share it. Most people who win money lose it all within in 3 years and many end up worse off. Look up the statistics! You made wise, savvy decisions and continue to work hard for your future. You owe him no apologies. Make sure you get a prenup if you get married, full stop.
northwyndsgurl wrote:
NTA. Your BF is projecting. Everything you did was financially smart & savvy! You ARE better off than most people regardless of age bracket. Advising him not to invest $ in a depreciating asset was very wise. Cars should be seen as mules to get you to work to make money. Spending ungodly amts for a vehicle to impress others is what perpetually poor/struggling people do.
The real question is Why is he so salty about you NOT being rich? Did he think he was latching on to a sugar mama with generational wealth? Your finances are none of his business unless you are engaged & abt to promise a lifetime together.
Being like-minded abt finances is key when planning a life together, but thats not where you are yet...thank god,cuz what he did and said, his overreaction in the wrong direction is very telling. To me, the only financial mistake you can make is continuing with this guy.
He's the AH, and really, at his age, to spend so recklessly on a vehicle tells me you'll never be financially stable with him by your side..you'll always be trying to replace the money he spends or perpetually the bad guy for not going along with it. Yikes!
UPDATE 4: He’s now on a crazy rant because I suggested we take a break from this argument because I don’t want to ruin my few days off. My god I can’t believe how he’s behaving. He thinks he’s so clever but I am thoroughly disgusted. Oh it is absolutely over between us.
According-Western-33 wrote:
Run, forrest, run!!! Seriously, he was so blinded with rage that you...checks notes...had money, that he just started yelling incoherently at you.
NTA, but you need a quick and safe exit, BF sounds unhinged.
DestronCommander wrote:
NTA. You're not married. You've been dating only 1.5 years and he shouldn't act like you owed him something big.
Specific-Garlic-1036 wrote:
NTA. This is the first time you discussed finances, you’re only BF/GF not engaged and just now moving in-and not because the relationship itself was ready. You could have inherited, got an amazing scholarship, any number of things beyond just worked hard and invested well.
His assumption is his problem, and if this is his attitude make him an EX BF. Indeed, you DID invest well and have made amazing choices with your good luck.
Traditional_Ad4576 wrote:
You won money, spent it wisely allowing you to pay for the schooling needed for your steady job, allowed you to buy a house and still have savings left over, and he has the balls to say you aren't financially well off? The audacity to move into your home and say that s#$t. No, no you are NTA, he is a small little man, with a nasty complex.
I’ve been repeatedly asked to give an update and here I am. So my sisters and brother in laws came over and I asked him to leave. He got very angry and argumentative. While he and I argued my family packed up all his stuff and put it in his car. He didn’t have much at mine as most of his furniture and other bigger items were already in storage.
He couldn’t believe I’d break up with him over such a “little thing”. As if he hadn’t spent three days yelling and ranting at me. He finally left and is now staying at his parents house. His parents called me to ask what happened. I explained the situation and they said it was for the best we broke up.
I didn’t see him for a few days but he called and texted a whole bunch and it was just him flipping between being regretful of his behavior to raging at my audacity and stupidity. Then I got call from Mike one of his friends and he asked me what happened because ex-bf was telling people he broke up with me for being a cheater. Apparently he caught me sleeping with some random dude 🙄
I explained the situation to his friend and he laughed saying he was wondering when he’d bring up his money schemes. So we had long chat and he told me how my ex had recently lost a lot of money in trading and that’s what had him stressed and anxious it’s also what pushed him over the edge. Apparently he was angry with me for not taking the same risks he takes.
He b#$ched to Mike about me being a risk averse person. Mike told me to move on and to change my locks because my ex apparently had a history of being nasty when dumped. He was right because a few days after that ex broke into my house and took a shit on my kitchen counter.
He was arrested while he was in the process of evacuating his bowels. I obviously changed to codes to my security system so he couldn’t get in with the old codes and by the time he had broken in the back door, police were already on their way.
He tried to tell the p*lice that he was my boyfriend and lived in the house but what resident breaks the back door of their house and bleeds over the entire hallway and then takes a s#$t on their own kitchen counter?!
He spent the night in jail and was bailed out the next day by his parents. They called to apologize and I told them to never contact me again. I am also in the process of getting a protection order. I have never dated crazy before and I am absolutely gobsmacked at his insanity.
StAlvis wrote:
"what resident breaks the back door of their house and bleeds over the entire hallway and then takes a s**t on their own kitchen counter?!
Everyone knows that only really risk-averse people take sh*ts in anything so pedestrian as a toilet.
OP responded:
Now that you say that 🤔
shgrdrbr wrote:
I can't stop thinking about it do you mind answering - what was the process of cleaning that up, who took care of it? I'm so sorry!!
OP responded:
I had arrived back to the house while he was in the back of the police car and one of the officers recommended a cleaning company that specializes in biohazards. Lucky for me they could have someone come in the morning for a emergency priority fee and honey I was happy to pay! My brother in law also temporarily boarded up the back door with some leftover plywood he had.
Then I paid a guy I know to replace the doors and I paid extra for some real solid and heavy doors. He also painted the hallway. The cleaners had to use harsh chemicals to get the blood off and it damaged the paint. He’ll also be remodelling my kitchen for me, it’s outdated and I’ve always planned to fix it up.
Honestly didn’t even go in the house I saw what I needed to on the security cameras. I was too devastated. The cleaners did do a excellent job!
Baileythenerd wrote:
Holy sh*t (pun only slightly intended). What a whack job, I can't believe you put up with him for as long as you did, be that 2 days or several years. How did "history of being nasty when dumped" never come up in your relationship before now?!
OP responded:
We did discuss past relationships but obviously everything was a lie. He had told me his last ex cheated on him, they were together for three years and Mike told me that it was true but I was missing the part where she had only cheated as a form of payback before she broke up with him because ex had repeatedly cheated on her.
My_MeowMeowBeenz wrote:
I would kill to see this loser’s Reddit account. Probably some absolutely insane cope posts on wallstreetbets and stonks and other subs where idiots convince themselves they’re Jordan Belfort but forget he’s a convicted felon and 8+ figure judgment debtor. NTA and congrats on losing about 200 pounds of dead weight!
OP responded:
I don’t know what stonks and wallstreetbets are but they definitely sound like things he’d be into. And yes wolf of wall street is one of his favorite movies!
Good riddance!
Alternative_Boat9540 wrote:
Jesus Christ.
Get cameras. Don't trust this will be the end. Record and document every bit of stalking and har*ssment with the police, even if you don't want to/it's not enough to prosecute on its own. It helps build a picture.
OP responded:
I’m on it. Literally have cameras all around and in the house. He hasn’t contacted me since his arr*st but if he does I am absolutely keeping notes and informing the police.
Alternative_Boat9540 responded:
Keep an eye on your accounts and change up anything he might have had access to, passwords, accounts, of personal info etc. Since he's an entitled ,resentful, spiteful little git with no self insight, he's probably stewing over being denied his golden ticket. He might try to get revenge by hitting the thing you're denied him - i.e your finances.
OP responded:
He never had access but just in case I did change it all up a few days ago. Thanks!
Plank3 wrote:
I'm so sorry for what you're going through.
But I had a really good laugh at imagining him squatting on the counter, the officers in the door, all of them looking at each other in horror and in the awkward silence the sound of a turd falling onto the counter.
Hopefully, for OP's sake, this is the final update.